2008-10-18 00:00 have you seen fallen angels? 2008-10-18 00:15 yup 2008-10-18 00:15 (just finished the Chinking Express) 2008-10-18 00:16 just saw both recently myself 2008-10-18 00:16 I also liked Falledn Angels :P 2008-10-18 00:16 :D 2008-10-18 00:16 I think it's his best 2008-10-18 00:16 how about the Ashes of Time? :D 2008-10-18 00:16 or maybe I just like vinyl skirts 2008-10-18 00:16 ashes was funny 2008-10-18 00:17 the first one I watch was In the Mood for Love... 2008-10-18 00:17 put me to sleep 2008-10-18 00:17 :P 2008-10-18 00:17 I watched Ashed of Time several times to understand something from it ;-) 2008-10-18 00:17 you can only take so many hours of chungsams 2008-10-18 00:17 I also like it though ;-) 2008-10-18 00:18 chungsams ?!? 2008-10-18 00:18 chinese dress 2008-10-18 00:18 (I also had to watch a bunch of time In The Mood for Love to figure out who is who ;-)) 2008-10-18 00:18 :D 2008-10-18 00:22 http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&q=Cheongsam 2008-10-18 00:22 nice... 2008-10-18 00:22 somehow related: http://razvan.musaloiu.com/2006/12/03/zhou-yu 2008-10-18 00:22 they've been working on it for thousands of years I understand 2008-10-18 00:23 they still love amazing :D 2008-10-18 00:23 (to me at least :P) 2008-10-18 00:24 have you seen chinese ghost story? 2008-10-18 00:24 don't think so? 2008-10-18 00:24 (they should have more pictures here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheongsam ) 2008-10-18 00:25 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Chinese_Ghost_Story 2008-10-18 00:25 if you have a thing for chinese you need to see it 2008-10-18 00:25 http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0093978/ 2008-10-18 00:26 I never heard of it :( 2008-10-18 00:26 cult hit 2008-10-18 00:26 87... I was in 2nd grade then :P 2008-10-18 00:28 awesome... they have at the library 2008-10-18 00:29 (I canceled my netflix subscription a few weeks ago) 2008-10-18 00:29 figured you saw everything worth seeing? 2008-10-18 00:29 nope... I didn't have time to see any of the movies for more than one year :D 2008-10-18 00:30 it was a relief 2008-10-18 00:30 :D 2008-10-18 00:31 I had to watch again Chunking Express though... it fades in my memory and I need a refresh from time to time 2008-10-18 00:31 some sort of timeout ;-) 2008-10-18 00:32 now I'll head to bed 2008-10-18 00:32 good night 2008-10-18 00:32 I fixed one last leak for romfs ;-) 2008-10-18 00:33 tomorrow I'll try minix :P 2008-10-18 00:33 and time to watch a netflix movie with my wife 2008-10-18 00:33 doctor strangelove 2008-10-18 00:33 aaaaaaaaaaaa 2008-10-18 00:33 very-very nice! :D 2008-10-18 00:33 extra nice ;-) 2008-10-18 00:33 enjoy :D 2008-10-18 00:33 :) 2008-10-18 00:33 see you 2008-10-18 00:33 bye 2008-10-18 01:04 -!- Bobby_(~Bobby@122.162.70.80) has joined #tux3 2008-10-18 01:04 hey all 2008-10-18 02:16 -!- Bobby_(~Bobby@122.162.74.234) has joined #tux3 2008-10-18 02:20 -!- Bobby_(~Bobby@122.162.72.218) has joined #tux3 2008-10-18 02:22 -!- MaZe(~MaZe@c-24-6-86-168.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #tux3 2008-10-18 02:23 -!- prani(~bobby@122.162.72.218) has joined #tux3 2008-10-18 03:33 -!- hirofumi(~hirofumi@210.171.168.39) has joined #tux3 2008-10-18 03:34 -!- Bobby_(~Bobby@122.162.72.218) has joined #tux3 2008-10-18 03:46 -!- prani(~bobby@122.162.72.218) has joined #tux3 2008-10-18 06:57 -!- pgquiles(~pgquiles@252.Red-83-41-113.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) has joined #tux3 2008-10-18 07:46 -!- stargazr5(~gauravstt@59.95.27.129) has joined #tux3 2008-10-18 08:58 -!- stargazr5(~gauravstt@59.95.22.5) has joined #tux3 2008-10-18 09:24 -!- tim_dimm(~timothyhu@cpe-76-90-98-247.socal.res.rr.com) has joined #tux3 2008-10-18 09:37 -!- Bobby_(~Bobby@122.162.72.218) has joined #tux3 2008-10-18 10:23 -!- tim_dimm(~timothyhu@cpe-76-90-98-247.socal.res.rr.com) has joined #tux3 2008-10-18 11:00 -!- tim_dimm(~timothyhu@cpe-76-90-98-247.socal.res.rr.com) has joined #tux3 2008-10-18 12:01 -!- bobby(~bobby@122.162.68.224) has joined #tux3 2008-10-18 12:01 -!- Bobby_(~Bobby@122.162.68.224) has joined #tux3 2008-10-18 12:01 hey all 2008-10-18 12:20 flips, shapor dleaf pics pleaseee 2008-10-18 12:20 i think i got a pretty good idea from hirofumi's diagram 2008-10-18 12:20 it shows the dleaf structure there... 2008-10-18 12:23 -!- RazvanM(~RazvanM@dazzler.isi.jhu.edu) has joined #tux3 2008-10-18 14:20 ACTION is experimenting with mercurial... 2008-10-18 14:38 mercurial rocks 2008-10-18 14:44 -!- FelipeS(~Felipe@r77h15.res.gatech.edu) has joined #tux3 2008-10-18 15:08 -!- tim_dimm(~timothyhu@cpe-76-90-98-247.socal.res.rr.com) has joined #tux3 2008-10-18 16:17 ACTION is trying to revive an old G3 with Panther... 2008-10-18 16:26 -!- flips(~phillips@phunq.net) has joined #tux3 2008-10-18 16:37 http://tux3.org/images/.600/.html/boardwalk.jpg.html <- gallery courtesy of shapor 2008-10-18 16:38 probably should move this to phunq 2008-10-18 16:38 http://phunq.net/images/ <- there we go 2008-10-18 16:40 nice... can you take more pictures? 2008-10-18 16:40 you too :) 2008-10-18 16:40 nice art you made yesterday 2008-10-18 16:40 very postcard 2008-10-18 16:41 http://phunq.net/images/sunset/ <- new home 2008-10-18 16:42 I like the 9x16 format ;-) 2008-10-18 16:42 entirely shapor's doing 2008-10-18 16:42 well and the camera 2008-10-18 16:42 no crops or retouching 2008-10-18 16:43 http://phunq.net/images/sunset/.1024/.html/carousel.jpg.html <- what do you call the darkening effect at the corners 2008-10-18 16:43 oh... so shapor took all the pictures? :D 2008-10-18 16:43 heh, did all the gallery processing 2008-10-18 16:43 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vignetting 2008-10-18 16:43 :D 2008-10-18 16:43 right 2008-10-18 16:44 especially prominent at f2.8 2008-10-18 16:44 what camera was it? 2008-10-18 16:44 wide angle 2008-10-18 16:44 20d 2008-10-18 16:44 aaa 2008-10-18 16:44 oldie but goodie 2008-10-18 16:45 can you take more? :D 2008-10-18 16:45 you are skating every day, right? 2008-10-18 16:46 right 2008-10-18 16:46 tonight without the camera backpack though 2008-10-18 16:46 stupid q: what kind of skating? 2008-10-18 16:46 roller ;) 2008-10-18 16:46 :D 2008-10-18 16:46 street I guess is the word 2008-10-18 16:46 why a backpack? 2008-10-18 16:47 camera backpack 2008-10-18 16:47 you don't want a holster swinging around 2008-10-18 16:47 I would just tied the camera to my hand :P 2008-10-18 16:47 when slaloming down the hill 2008-10-18 16:47 3 kilos of camera 2008-10-18 16:47 uh... 2008-10-18 16:47 aaa... the lens! :D 2008-10-18 16:47 right 2008-10-18 16:47 do you have a cheap 50mm? :P 2008-10-18 16:47 the f1.8 type ;-) 2008-10-18 16:47 let me see, is it really that much 2008-10-18 16:47 I do 2008-10-18 16:48 takes good pics 2008-10-18 16:48 http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/specs/Canon/canon_eos20d.asp 2008-10-18 16:48 770g 2008-10-18 16:48 in some situations 2008-10-18 16:48 and the lens is 1.something kilos 2008-10-18 16:48 so 2 kilos 2008-10-18 16:48 the 1.8 would e also nice ;-) 2008-10-18 16:48 I'll get a couple primes 2008-10-18 16:48 btw, do you drive there? 2008-10-18 16:49 skate 2008-10-18 16:49 or is that close to where you live? 2008-10-18 16:49 along ocean 2008-10-18 16:49 nice :_) 2008-10-18 16:49 rich people's sidewalk 2008-10-18 16:49 then down a fairly respectable hill 2008-10-18 16:49 so how long is this? 2008-10-18 16:49 several km? 2008-10-18 16:50 (I left my roller blades in Ro :|) 2008-10-18 16:50 right, about 10 km/day 2008-10-18 16:50 when I don't skate with tim that is 2008-10-18 16:50 with tim is more? :P 2008-10-18 16:51 (something funny, you sk8 hour is around 8 here :D) 2008-10-18 16:51 heh 2008-10-18 16:53 http://phunq.net/images/sunset/.1024/.html/carousel.jpg.html <- on the right side of that pic is a ramp I slalom on 2008-10-18 16:53 there are a bunch of posts at the bottom, so it has to be controlled 2008-10-18 16:53 shapor would probably just tuck and aim for a gap between the posts 2008-10-18 16:53 :P 2008-10-18 16:53 narrowly missing a couple baby carriages at the bottom 2008-10-18 16:54 tim does airials and spins all the way down 2008-10-18 16:54 ?? 2008-10-18 16:54 narrlowly missing the posts at the bottom, but not by chance as with shapor ;) 2008-10-18 16:55 aerial -> jump up in the air and do a trick 2008-10-18 16:55 like land backwards 2008-10-18 16:55 or spin 2008-10-18 16:55 oh... you guys are all good :P 2008-10-18 16:55 shapor and I are relative beginners 2008-10-18 16:55 tim is hardcore 2008-10-18 16:56 any pictures of them? 2008-10-18 16:56 there were two guys in your pictures... 2008-10-18 16:56 random dudes 2008-10-18 16:56 we'll get pics one day 2008-10-18 16:56 tim took a couple of me with his iphone 2008-10-18 16:56 noisy 2008-10-18 16:57 and timing is almost impossible with the shutter lag 2008-10-18 16:57 I'll bring down the canon and hand it to him one day 2008-10-18 16:57 let me guess, it will contain 4 people and the letters on their shirts will spell: t u x 3 :D 2008-10-18 16:57 heh 2008-10-18 16:57 about time to get rolling 2008-10-18 16:58 enjoy 2008-10-18 16:58 the G3 is almost ready... 2008-10-18 16:58 g3? 2008-10-18 16:59 PPC G3 2008-10-18 16:59 there was an old one laying around 2008-10-18 16:59 266Mhz 2008-10-18 16:59 I just put 2x128 in it 2008-10-18 16:59 ah 2008-10-18 16:59 os/x ? 2008-10-18 16:59 yup 2008-10-18 16:59 10.3 2008-10-18 17:00 I didn't have any luck with any of the bsd 2008-10-18 17:00 somebody else tried a linux but there was no X 2008-10-18 17:01 what will you use it for? 2008-10-18 17:01 fuse? 2008-10-18 17:01 I wanted to make it work when I didn't have a PPC around 2008-10-18 17:02 the tricks that I did to compile the linux modules on my mac depends on the fact that is intel 2008-10-18 17:02 I wanted to get them to compile on PCC also 2008-10-18 17:03 Ral has a PPC but I didn't want to work on her machine 2008-10-18 17:03 she is using wifi sometime :P 2008-10-18 17:04 hardcore 2008-10-18 17:53 wow... for minix I have 50 more functions to add :| 2008-10-18 18:20 -!- MaZe(~MaZe@c-24-6-86-168.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #tux3 2008-10-18 18:27 block_sync_page looks can be nothing... 1 down, 49 to go 2008-10-18 18:36 find_first_zero_bit... 2 down, 48 to go 2008-10-18 18:48 clear_inode... 3 down, 47 to go 2008-10-18 19:08 -!- FelipeS(~Felipe@r77h15.res.gatech.edu) has joined #tux3 2008-10-18 19:57 kmap_atomic... 4 down, 46 to go 2008-10-18 20:01 implementing the linux vfs on minix? 2008-10-18 20:01 nope 2008-10-18 20:01 no, os/x I suppose 2008-10-18 20:01 compiling minix fs in mac os :D 2008-10-18 20:02 what is it page_follow_link_light and page_put? 2008-10-18 20:02 some old stuff? 2008-10-18 20:02 there will be a bunch of support functions not having much to do with modern filesystems 2008-10-18 20:02 hmm... it is in ext4 though 2008-10-18 20:02 follow__light is a new one for me 2008-10-18 20:03 some optimization of symlink I suppose 2008-10-18 20:03 and you'd have to read path_walk and friends 2008-10-18 20:03 I suppose we should do that one day 2008-10-18 20:03 :D 2008-10-18 20:03 I've never completely analyzed it myself, it's a royal mess 2008-10-18 20:03 another one 2008-10-18 20:04 the cool thing is I can fake some stuff if they will never be called :P 2008-10-18 20:05 just compile them all as error stubs, execute the mount and fix the first thing that breaks 2008-10-18 20:05 that's the approach 2008-10-18 20:05 I spent some time to understand them though 2008-10-18 20:05 been there ;) 2008-10-18 20:05 at least a little :D 2008-10-18 20:05 hehe... 2008-10-18 20:06 in what context? 2008-10-18 20:06 ported an app from an embedded controller to msdos 2008-10-18 20:06 uuu... 2008-10-18 20:06 had to emulate the graphics controller 2008-10-18 20:07 dozens of features, some of them bizarre 2008-10-18 20:07 different graphics memory layout, line acceleration... 2008-10-18 20:07 everything to make life miserable 2008-10-18 20:07 did it work? :D 2008-10-18 20:07 it took over the world 2008-10-18 20:07 did it worth the effort? 2008-10-18 20:08 canon cameras are running msdos... 2008-10-18 20:08 http://www.herkules-group.com/ >- bailed these guys out of a dead end and they now monopolize the world's roll grinder industry 2008-10-18 20:09 roll grinder... serious stuff! :D 2008-10-18 20:09 big stuff... 2008-10-18 20:09 (I'm looking at the pictures) 2008-10-18 20:09 chances are you used some plastic wrap in the last week made by a roll ground by my software 2008-10-18 20:10 and are driving around in a car wearing sheet metal made by a roll ground by my software ;) 2008-10-18 20:10 :D 2008-10-18 20:11 and few home for christmas in a plane with superstructure made by... etc etc 2008-10-18 20:11 so far I only know a bug that affects all the mac os x I tried so far :P 2008-10-18 20:12 bugs in that software tend to make large explosions and/or cut people in half 2008-10-18 20:13 "crash and burn" literally 2008-10-18 20:13 how big was your code? 2008-10-18 20:13 http://www.mohansteels.com/rollmill3.jpg 2008-10-18 20:13 bug free? 2008-10-18 20:13 pretty big 2008-10-18 20:13 not bug free, but reliable 2008-10-18 20:14 far more than the original 2008-10-18 20:14 I never have the chance to walk in such a place 2008-10-18 20:14 did some of the debugging live in places like in the picture, wearing a hard hat 2008-10-18 20:14 downtime cost $90,000 hour, so upgrades had to be fast 2008-10-18 20:17 http://www.sumitomometals.co.jp/e/osakasteelworks/vc/images/vc3-3.jpg 2008-10-18 20:18 :D 2008-10-18 20:18 how long were the debug sessions? 2008-10-18 20:18 days or weeks 2008-10-18 20:18 had to be careful 2008-10-18 20:19 finding other people's bugs pretty much 2008-10-18 20:19 how long have you done this? 2008-10-18 20:19 usually by replacing masses of code with stuff a fraction of the size 2008-10-18 20:19 did that for two or three years 2008-10-18 20:19 did you like it? :P 2008-10-18 20:20 would not have given up the experience 2008-10-18 20:20 rather different than the rest of my life ;) 2008-10-18 20:20 whole nuther side of the world 2008-10-18 20:20 don't need any more of that 2008-10-18 20:20 this was before Google? 2008-10-18 20:21 or much earlier? 2008-10-18 20:21 way before 2008-10-18 20:21 been a linux hacker since 2008-10-18 20:22 (nameidata... another thing I don't know about...) 2008-10-18 20:22 it could have been something else beside linux? 2008-10-18 20:22 bsd perhaps? 2008-10-18 20:22 mac os? :D 2008-10-18 20:22 http://www.industry.siemens.com/metals/EN/solutions/autom_siflat.htm <- you don't want to step on one of these when it's moving 2008-10-18 20:22 not much to prevent that either 2008-10-18 20:23 should have been linux 2008-10-18 20:23 the reason I left is because the company decided to do the next generation in windows instead of linux 2008-10-18 20:23 I didn't want to stick around to clean up the body parts 2008-10-18 20:23 they're probably using linux by now 2008-10-18 20:23 and they did do in windows?!? 2008-10-18 20:24 aha... :D 2008-10-18 20:24 they did, just the user interface 2008-10-18 20:24 and used off the shelf controllers for the back end 2008-10-18 20:24 still 2008-10-18 20:25 the off the shelf controllers are almost certainly running linux now 2008-10-18 20:25 then they were probalby wind river or similar 2008-10-18 20:25 VxWorks? 2008-10-18 20:25 probably 2008-10-18 20:26 details weren't interesting to me 2008-10-18 20:26 in linux, you do all the stuff the controller is doing and throw away the controller 2008-10-18 20:26 control the motors directly, throw away the motor controller too 2008-10-18 20:26 :D 2008-10-18 20:27 you still need something to get to those motors 2008-10-18 20:27 http://planet.wwu.edu/fall04/images/carmeltedscrap.jpg 2008-10-18 20:27 wish I had my camera then 2008-10-18 20:27 exactly! :D 2008-10-18 20:27 these shots don't give have the sense of what it's like 2008-10-18 20:27 it's like science fiction 2008-10-18 20:27 :-) 2008-10-18 20:29 http://www.hebig.org/blogs/archives/main/IMG_7068_4.jpg <- that's more like it 2008-10-18 20:29 crappy photo though 2008-10-18 20:30 I wonder if they let people take picture now... 2008-10-18 20:30 sure 2008-10-18 20:30 do they? 2008-10-18 20:30 no secrets 2008-10-18 20:30 they use the photos to get business 2008-10-18 20:31 :D 2008-10-18 20:31 you by equipment by the pound in that industry 2008-10-18 20:31 there's only one source for most of it 2008-10-18 20:31 where are this things? can you ask to go and visit? 2008-10-18 20:31 you can 2008-10-18 20:31 they get so few visitors you'd get the royal treatment 2008-10-18 20:32 but where are these? 2008-10-18 20:32 usually in the middle of nowhere where land is cheap and the cows don't complain about the noise and smoke 2008-10-18 20:32 ouch... 2008-10-18 20:32 you're in chicago, right? probably don't have far to go to get to the rust belt 2008-10-18 20:32 touring america and taking pics in some of these places would be awesome :D 2008-10-18 20:33 I'm in Baltimore :P 2008-10-18 20:33 even better I think 2008-10-18 20:33 I don't jave a car though :| 2008-10-18 20:33 probably got a rolling mill or two on the same block ;) 2008-10-18 20:33 school is in the walking distance and so is the supermarket :P 2008-10-18 20:34 ok, maryland, shows how much american geography I know 2008-10-18 20:34 the mills all moved west long time ago 2008-10-18 20:34 the JHU campus is inside the city 2008-10-18 20:35 how's the weather right now? 2008-10-18 20:35 pretty warm 2008-10-18 20:36 I go to school in short sleeve 2008-10-18 20:36 looks like a nice situation 2008-10-18 20:36 I put a jacket when I come though 2008-10-18 20:36 right now the max is around 20-22 and the min about 10 2008-10-18 20:36 I prefer much warmer weather :P 2008-10-18 20:36 Singapore was heaven :D 2008-10-18 20:37 http://www.baltimoresun.com/media/photo/2008-03/37043371.jpg <- close to you 2008-10-18 20:38 how did you find that? :D 2008-10-18 20:38 creative googling 2008-10-18 20:39 maryland steel factories? :D 2008-10-18 20:39 maps.google.com, go to baltimore, type in steel mill, look for one close to you, type in the address, go to images 2008-10-18 20:39 let's see... 2008-10-18 20:40 http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=%22steel+mill%22+maryland&ie=UTF8&filter=0&z=7 2008-10-18 20:41 that would have been me, wearing a blue hard hat and birkenstocks 2008-10-18 20:41 perhaps I should mention the terrible state of the public transportation in baltimore :P 2008-10-18 20:41 birkenstocks? 2008-10-18 20:42 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birkenstocks 2008-10-18 20:42 german sandals 2008-10-18 20:42 still have the same ones 2008-10-18 20:42 they last forever 2008-10-18 20:42 can you wear something like this in a steel factory?? 2008-10-18 20:49 they care more about your head than your feet 2008-10-18 20:49 save the important parts :D 2008-10-18 20:50 just be careful not to step on anything that's glowing 2008-10-18 20:51 43 calls to go... 2008-10-18 20:51 I should go home :| 2008-10-18 20:53 funny: the fs is exactly the last chapter in operating systems, design and implementation :P 2008-10-18 20:58 uses every aspect of the fs just about 2008-10-18 20:58 with the exception of some multimedia 2008-10-18 21:21 going home... 2008-10-18 21:21 have a nice evening! 2008-10-18 21:21 thanks for chat :P 2008-10-18 22:07 folks 2008-10-18 22:09 hi 2008-10-18 22:15 how's it going ? 2008-10-18 22:16 finally got some good results out of my schedule instrumentation and I found that the cpu_idle thread is a significant source of lock contention against the rq locks which is surprising 2008-10-18 22:16 I haven't posted my patch nor the result to lkml yet 2008-10-18 22:24 there might be some logic that too aggressive to try and idle a processor under various thread loads and it might be another aspect that's putting a lot of pressure against those rq locks 2008-10-18 22:24 ACTION thinks about file system parallelism 2008-10-18 22:42 -!- prani(~Bobby@122.163.48.97) has joined #tux3 2008-10-18 22:43 -!- prani(~Bobby@122.163.48.97) has joined #tux3 2008-10-18 23:40 -!- RazvanM(~RazvanM@pool-151-196-118-156.balt.east.verizon.net) has joined #tux3 2008-10-18 23:53 -!- Bobby_(~Bobby@122.163.48.97) has joined #tux3