2008-09-06 02:29 <konrad> bleh
2008-09-06 02:30 <konrad> the mailserver on sf.net rejects senders who don't have a postmaster@ address
2008-09-06 02:33 <konrad> sending/subscribing from my other address
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2008-09-06 15:12 <flips> nearly sk8 oclock
2008-09-06 15:12 <flips> test earlier these days
2008-09-06 15:12 <flips> gets earlier
2008-09-06 15:13 <flips> the french girls go back to their hotels earlier too
2008-09-06 15:13 <flips> temperature drops slightly below bikini degrees, centigrade
2008-09-06 15:25 <konrad> we have a response
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2008-09-06 15:30 <konrad> For example autoconf that tests for the number of parameters.
2008-09-06 15:30 <konrad> See http://tinyurl.com/6k6hnm on how this is done.
2008-09-06 15:30 <konrad> Then again, FUSE 2.5.3 is almost 2 1/2 years old..
2008-09-06 15:30 <konrad> """
2008-09-06 15:40 <flips> response?
2008-09-06 15:40 <flips> oh
2008-09-06 15:40 <flips> the fuse list :-)
2008-09-06 15:40 <flips> autoconf is banned from tux3
2008-09-06 15:41 <flips> solutions that avoid autoconf are welcome
2008-09-06 15:41 <flips> for example, whatever test autoconf uses
2008-09-06 15:41 <flips> we cut & paste
2008-09-06 15:41 <flips> stripping out the fluff
2008-09-06 15:42 <flips> 2.5 years is short on the unix timescale
2008-09-06 15:42 <flips> got to think longer term than that
2008-09-06 15:43 <flips> nice piece of autoconf wanking
2008-09-06 15:43 <flips> has nothing to do with fuse
2008-09-06 15:43 <konrad> right, I don't like autoconf either
2008-09-06 15:43 <flips> hopefully a more clueful response is in the pipe :-)
2008-09-06 15:44 <flips> anyway, we have solved it, I hacked my fuse.h
2008-09-06 15:44 <konrad> alright
2008-09-06 15:44 <flips> it's good you are on the fuse list
2008-09-06 15:45 <flips> I suspect there are many other things to complain about, most of them more important
2008-09-06 15:47 <flips> note that fuse has a parallel mode
2008-09-06 15:47 <konrad> I actually tried to use fi->fh earlier
2008-09-06 15:47 <flips> so once we have it basically working
2008-09-06 15:47 <flips> ah
2008-09-06 15:47 <konrad> but it was failing on the second read
2008-09-06 15:47 <konrad> maybe I was shoving the wrong pointer in it
2008-09-06 15:47 <flips> need to get the fuse source and compile
2008-09-06 15:47 <flips> and debug the two together
2008-09-06 15:48 <flips> in uml even
2008-09-06 15:48 <flips> ok, I can cook up a recipe for that
2008-09-06 15:48 <flips> just turning on fuse event tracing in the kernel would be a huge help
2008-09-06 15:48 <flips> I wonder if there is an easy way to do that
2008-09-06 15:49 <flips> let's see what's in the fuse kernel code ;-)
2008-09-06 15:49 <flips> http://lxr.linux.no/linux+v2.6.26.3/fs/fuse/ <- fuse kernel code
2008-09-06 15:50 <flips> http://lxr.linux.no/linux+v2.6.26.3/include/linux/fuse.h <- and here
2008-09-06 15:51 <flips> http://lxr.linux.no/linux+v2.6.26.3/+ident=14862186 <-  FOPEN_KEEP_CACHE for example
2008-09-06 15:52 <flips> http://lxr.linux.no/linux+v2.6.26.3/fs/fuse/dir.c#L755 <- /* Directories have separate file-handle space */
2008-09-06 15:53 <flips> FUSE_GETATTR_FH
2008-09-06 15:53 <flips> konrad, better than a pointer is the inum, for now
2008-09-06 15:54 <flips> call open_inode
2008-09-06 15:54 <flips> we don't really care about performance at this point
2008-09-06 15:54 <flips> just working right
2008-09-06 15:54 <konrad> k
2008-09-06 15:55 <flips> the libfuse stuff is important too
2008-09-06 15:55 <flips> more important that the kernel I think
2008-09-06 15:55 <flips> so we should compile it with -g
2008-09-06 15:55 <flips> to set breaks and see how it screws up ;-)
2008-09-06 15:55 <flips> let's see, how do you get a debug build in debian
2008-09-06 15:56 <flips> weakness of debian
2008-09-06 15:56 <flips> this is where gentoo is good
2008-09-06 15:56 <flips> but I can just apt-get remove libfuse2
2008-09-06 15:56 <flips> and build from tarball like a proper hacker
2008-09-06 16:01 <flips> sudo apt-get remove --purge fuse-utils libfuse-dev libfuse2
2008-09-06 16:05 <flips> all the pain of autoconf is coming back to me now
2008-09-06 16:05 <flips> including library path skew
2008-09-06 16:13 <flips> ok, installed, working
2008-09-06 16:13 <flips> needlessly painful
2008-09-06 16:14 <flips> ld.so.config... not documented in man ld :-P
2008-09-06 16:14 <flips> ld.so.conf I meant
2008-09-06 16:14 <flips> see? pain
2008-09-06 16:15 <flips> aha! it was a fuse bug
2008-09-06 16:15 <flips> now does not claim to be busy on umount
2008-09-06 16:16 <konrad> heh
2008-09-06 16:16 <flips> and tux3fs does not exit file file not found when you unmount
2008-09-06 16:16 <konrad> what version of fuse are you using now?
2008-09-06 16:16 <flips> um
2008-09-06 16:16 <flips> 2.7.4
2008-09-06 16:16 <flips> is it leet?
2008-09-06 16:17 <konrad> heh
2008-09-06 16:17 <konrad> more recent anyways
2008-09-06 16:17 <flips> I decided not to track their unstable
2008-09-06 16:17 <flips> any more than they should track ours
2008-09-06 16:17 <flips> for their home dirs ;-)
2008-09-06 16:18 <flips> kay, got to get serious about skating
2008-09-06 16:18 <flips> tux3 fuse is looking good
2008-09-06 16:32 <flips> it's about time to create the version table
2008-09-06 16:33 <flips> will be inode number 2, maybe
2008-09-06 16:33 <flips> or maybe it deserves to be number 0
2008-09-06 16:33 <flips> even more important than bitmap
2008-09-06 16:33 <flips> which is after all a redundant structure
2008-09-06 16:34 <flips> 0: version 1: bitmap 2: extentmap
2008-09-06 16:34 <flips> maybe 
2008-09-06 16:35 <flips> the rule is: inums below 0x10 do not have dirents
2008-09-06 16:35 <flips> they are special tux3 files never seen by user space
2008-09-06 18:09 <flips> ok, sk8 oclock, really
2008-09-06 18:51 <bh> hey
2008-09-06 19:54 <flips> hi bh
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